Comments on: Passionate about web. http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/ dynamIt stream-of-consciousness and general work/life views. Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:05:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: RACHID AZZOUZI http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-1643 RACHID AZZOUZI Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:51:13 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-1643 demmande logiciel des plan des chaluts de peche de fond demmande logiciel des plan des chaluts de peche de fond

]]> By: Bobby Whitman http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-463 Bobby Whitman Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:50:14 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-463 JC. No apology necessary, I am actually really glad that you did bring it up as it has provoked much thought from our end. It has really helped us define what web is to us and made us think about the medium in which we work. Also, my purpose in blogging about it was not to call you out or flex my own intellectual muscles. (Well, maybe the latter just a bit). Rather, it was to tell an entertaining story and provoke thought about the concept of web amongst the community. With a dozen comments on the post now, I feel that I have achieved this, albeit on a relatively small scale. Stay in touch. -Bobby JC.

No apology necessary, I am actually really glad that you did bring it up as it has provoked much thought from our end. It has really helped us define what web is to us and made us think about the medium in which we work.

Also, my purpose in blogging about it was not to call you out or flex my own intellectual muscles. (Well, maybe the latter just a bit). Rather, it was to tell an entertaining story and provoke thought about the concept of web amongst the community. With a dozen comments on the post now, I feel that I have achieved this, albeit on a relatively small scale.

Stay in touch.

-Bobby

]]> By: jquaglia http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-462 jquaglia Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:27:15 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-462 Bobby, Good to see you guys at CSMC the other night. And for clarification, I am the "boob" who brought this up in the first place. I am glad that I have stumbled upon this post now so that hopefully I don't just look like the anonymous grammar nerd out to pick on the grammar-less web developer. It is pretty clear that you guys are great at both "web" and grammar. Anyways, I am sorry to have ever brought this up, and I had really no idea what this was going to become when I first emailed you. But, I hope you realize that I wasn't trying to correct you as much as I was trying to understand where you were coming from. I think I have come to terms with the ladder several times over. And Tim, I really like your Web 2.0 observation. That makes a ton of sense too. However, thank you to Alvin and Rocky, and others for at least offering my opinion some credibility. I was beginning to think I was going crazy. Personally, I know very little about "web" etc., and the background behind that use of grammar. It still doesn't feel right to me, and my guess is that it wouldn't feel right to the layman. But your argument is very well thought out and, like I said, I understand your perspective. Hope to see you guys around soon. I owe you a drink for wasting so much of your time explaining this. But, I think it is awesome how you linked your homepage to this blog. Now, you won't get anymore emails from idiots like me. Bobby,

Good to see you guys at CSMC the other night.

And for clarification, I am the “boob” who brought this up in the first place. I am glad that I have stumbled upon this post now so that hopefully I don’t just look like the anonymous grammar nerd out to pick on the grammar-less web developer. It is pretty clear that you guys are great at both “web” and grammar.

Anyways, I am sorry to have ever brought this up, and I had really no idea what this was going to become when I first emailed you. But, I hope you realize that I wasn’t trying to correct you as much as I was trying to understand where you were coming from. I think I have come to terms with the ladder several times over. And Tim, I really like your Web 2.0 observation. That makes a ton of sense too.

However, thank you to Alvin and Rocky, and others for at least offering my opinion some credibility. I was beginning to think I was going crazy. Personally, I know very little about “web” etc., and the background behind that use of grammar. It still doesn’t feel right to me, and my guess is that it wouldn’t feel right to the layman. But your argument is very well thought out and, like I said, I understand your perspective.

Hope to see you guys around soon. I owe you a drink for wasting so much of your time explaining this. But, I think it is awesome how you linked your homepage to this blog. Now, you won’t get anymore emails from idiots like me.

]]> By: Mary Wehrle http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Mary Wehrle Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:08:07 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-400 It took me a few minutes the first time I read "We are passionate about Web" but it kind of grew on me. Now that I read this, it makes total sense. Web has become a growing living breathing thing (much like chemistry) and I think you are one of those few are able to see changes early or as they happen. It will take others a while to figure it out, but I suspect that others will refer to it as Web in the future, once the concept gain traction. Stick to your guns. Oh, and I come back here just to gaze at that pretty, messy, colorful splat on the page. I think it's pretty cool. It took me a few minutes the first time I read “We are passionate about Web” but it kind of grew on me. Now that I read this, it makes total sense. Web has become a growing living breathing thing (much like chemistry) and I think you are one of those few are able to see changes early or as they happen. It will take others a while to figure it out, but I suspect that others will refer to it as Web in the future, once the concept gain traction. Stick to your guns.

Oh, and I come back here just to gaze at that pretty, messy, colorful splat on the page. I think it’s pretty cool.

]]> By: Alvin http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-398 Alvin Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:55:28 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-398 As someone who produces the blog the270.com, my vote if for "the web". :) As someone who produces the blog the270.com, my vote if for “the web”.

:)

]]> By: Rocky http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Rocky Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:03:34 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-382 You are very passionate about this point. Say I ask you a question like, "Where can I find information on DynamIT." Would you respond "Let me do a web search," or "Let me get on THE web and find out?" Most logicly you would say, "Let me go to THEIR web site." I voice that it could go either way. Do not let that detract that you made a very vaild point! You are very passionate about this point. Say I ask you a question like, “Where can I find information on DynamIT.” Would you respond “Let me do a web search,” or “Let me get on THE web and find out?”

Most logicly you would say, “Let me go to THEIR web site.”

I voice that it could go either way.

Do not let that detract that you made a very vaild point!

]]> By: Nick Seguin http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Nick Seguin Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:57:35 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-381 realization of web as THE platform means that you're there, you understand. when web is THE platform, the possibilities are endless as you think of social media and distribution. also, acceptance and reliance on web as A/THE platform allows one to truly begin to grasp RDF, XML, N3, OWL sematics, 3.0, etc.. and the idea that web does, can and should facilitates linked data. we just need to get there. realization of web as THE platform means that you’re there, you understand. when web is THE platform, the possibilities are endless as you think of social media and distribution. also, acceptance and reliance on web as A/THE platform allows one to truly begin to grasp RDF, XML, N3, OWL sematics, 3.0, etc.. and the idea that web does, can and should facilitates linked data. we just need to get there.

]]> By: Bobby Whitman http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Bobby Whitman Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:32:26 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-380 Tim. Good observation on the 1.0 versus 2.0 distinction. That had not occurred to me, but I like it. I think you are absolutely right. This even relates back to the days of dial-up when you had to wait a good minute or two just for your computer to be taken to "the web." Today, the ubiquity of access--be it through broadband, wifi hotspots, or even mobile--supports the theory that "web" is a collective concept. Tim.

Good observation on the 1.0 versus 2.0 distinction. That had not occurred to me, but I like it. I think you are absolutely right. This even relates back to the days of dial-up when you had to wait a good minute or two just for your computer to be taken to “the web.” Today, the ubiquity of access–be it through broadband, wifi hotspots, or even mobile–supports the theory that “web” is a collective concept.

]]> By: Ryan Squire http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-379 Ryan Squire Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:26:07 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-379 Bobby, You won the argument, but there are actually two winning theories. The premise is that the web is an idea is good. But the 2.0 web is the social web. So in affect, the 2.0 web is alive. It's no longer an inanimate object, holding information, it really seems to be a living thing. I wouldn't refer to a living thing as "the Squire" or "the dynamIt". Of course all of that is predicated by the idea that that the web is a living breathing thing. I believe. Bobby,
You won the argument, but there are actually two winning theories. The premise is that the web is an idea is good. But the 2.0 web is the social web. So in affect, the 2.0 web is alive. It’s no longer an inanimate object, holding information, it really seems to be a living thing. I wouldn’t refer to a living thing as “the Squire” or “the dynamIt”. Of course all of that is predicated by the idea that that the web is a living breathing thing. I believe.

]]> By: Tim Eby http://www.dynamit.us/blog/2008/07/passionate-about-web/comment-page-1/#comment-378 Tim Eby Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:53:54 +0000 http://www.dynamittechnologies.com/blog/?p=108#comment-378 Isn't "the Web" vs. "Web" very much a 1.0 vs. 2.0 comparison? "The Web" (1.0) was a site, a place, that resembles the broadcast model of one to many. For most, 1.0 means a brochure site where information is disseminated to an audience. "Web" (2.0 and beyond) is a distribution platform that has no single destination but rather feeds and widgets that may take original content and mash it into something new. It's ever evolving from community contributions that are welcome and transparent. Microsoft = "the Web" Google = "web" Just my interpretation. Isn’t “the Web” vs. “Web” very much a 1.0 vs. 2.0 comparison?

“The Web” (1.0) was a site, a place, that resembles the broadcast model of one to many. For most, 1.0 means a brochure site where information is disseminated to an audience.

“Web” (2.0 and beyond) is a distribution platform that has no single destination but rather feeds and widgets that may take original content and mash it into something new. It’s ever evolving from community contributions that are welcome and transparent.

Microsoft = “the Web”
Google = “web”

Just my interpretation.

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